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[00:00:00] Ooh. Okay. Lemme get to this question now. Clifford asks, are we as Catholics obligated to be obedient to the Pope under any pretext? Okay, so Ooh. Okay. Lemme get to this question now. Clifford asks, are we as Catholics obligated to be obedient to the Pope under any pretext? Okay, so that under any pretext part, , concerns me.
[00:00:29] I'm gonna tell you the simple answer. Yes. \. let me ask you this. Do my children need to obey me even if they disagree with what I'm imposing? Yes. Why? Because very likely daddy's right and the children are wrong. Could daddy be imposing a rule that's a little overboard or a little stupid? Could that happen?
[00:00:52] Of course it could happen, but odds are it isn't. So the children should always obey me [00:01:00] anyway. . I'm going to take you down a throwback road here to Pope Francis. I understand Pope Francis was a little frustrating, but I have to tell you, and now, and I, and I, and I always said this, I think he was a very bad communicator, but he was not a bad theologian.
[00:01:14] a lot of the things that Pope Francis said that shocked the masses. Did not shock me. Do you know why? Because the Pope was laying down some very, very old classical church theology that people had just never heard before.
I came across a post on Threads the other day—one of those confidently wrong zingers that floats around Protestant corners of the internet. It claimed that “using prayer beads is not biblical,” accompanied by a smug graphic with the caption: “This is how Satan taught the world to pray.”

That kind of thing infuriates me—not just because it's dumb, but because it’s lazy, historically illiterate, and spiritually damaging. So, I figured it was worth laying out a quick and honest rundown of where the Christian tradition of prayer beads—and prayer counting in general—actually comes from. Spoiler: it’s not from Satan. It’s from the desert, from the saints, and from the deep human instinct to stay rooted in prayer.
We tend to think of the rosary as a medieval invention—and in its current form, that’s true. But the instinct to count our prayers, to tether our mind to the rhythm of repetition, goes back much further. In fact, long before there were beads strung on cords, some of the earliest Christians were using… pebbles. Literal stones!

Out in the Egyptian desert, where the monastic tradition first took shape, you’ll find accounts of 3rd and 4th-century monks counting their prayers by setting aside a pebble for each one said. It’s simple and earthy—prayer grounded in dirt and dust. A monk would say 100 or 300 prayers a day, depending on his discipline, and drop a pebble into a bowl or toss it aside to keep track.
Of course, pebbles are easy to lose and bowls are easy to knock over. So they evolved the method: knotted ropes. Early monastics, especially in the East, tied a set number of knots into cords so they could keep pace with their devotions. Eventually, those knots turned into wooden beads. That practice gave rise to what the Eastern Church still uses today—the prayer rope, or komboskini. These cords might have 33, 50, or 100 knots, and they’re used for the Jesus Prayer: “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.”
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So how far back does this go? We can trace the practice of counted prayer—whether with pebbles, knots, or beads—to at least the 3rd or 4th century. Palladius, a 4th-century writer, described one monk dropping a stone after every prayer to keep count. That’s almost as old as post-apostolic Christianity itself.
Even before that, Jewish tradition already had a strong rhythm of repeated prayer, especially with the Psalms and the Shema. It’s not hard to imagine early Christians—many of them former Jews—adapting those patterns with their own tools.
In the Western Church, it was in the early Middle Ages that prayer cords became more formalized. Laypeople who couldn’t read the Psalms began praying 50 or 150 Our Fathers instead. These were counted with what were called Pater Noster cords, and by the 12th century, these were common among monks and laypeople alike. That’s when things began to take on the shape we’d recognize as a rosary today—especially with the growing popularity of Marian devotion and the inclusion of Hail Marys.
So the next time you pick up a rosary—or a komboskini—or even find yourself fidgeting with your fingers to count your prayers—know that you’re not doing anything new. You’re doing something deeply ancient. You're stepping into the quiet rhythm of generations past: monks in the desert, saints in cloisters, mothers in kitchens, children in pews. All of them counting their prayers one knot, one stone, one bead at a time.